Nicolas Winding Refn and Ryan Gosling on the set of their new movie Only God Forgives talking about sex and violence.
Nicolas Winding Refn: It's like violence is like sex. It's all about the buildup.
Ryan Gosling looks at the camera.
Ryan Gosling: Did you get that?
Ryan Gosling fights Muay Thai in preparation for his role.
Nicolas Winding Refn: I'm just saying. It's like the climax itself is not...
Now make it dirty, unique, interesting, never seen before and violent.
Yes, that we'll do.
Throw him to the wall. And go out like this. Slam him into the wall.
And then the elbow thing.
The sexuality of violence is that the more you're engaged in the buildup, compared to the actual act itself. So it's the breaks in between that's the buildup to the slicings. And then it's back. And then it's in again, you know.
Ryan Gosling looks at the camera again.